Hi Kev. What's happening? Nice to know I still have some friends out at GW. I think I stirred a few up with my 'anti -tailgating/drafting' comments! And right now Terry has stirred me up again! Oh well, I treat as both a bit of fun, and as a 'preacher' trying to spread a message! lol. But I think I am in 'enemy territory' trying to tell 'group' cyclists that tailgating is inviting disaster.