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Summer Crit Racing

Started by Dahondude. Last reply by Dahondude Oct 8, 2014. 37 Replies

An absolute bonanza of summer crit racing available with CA Open crits starting last weekend and shifting to Tuesday nights once dalylight savings kicks in, SAVCA Vets crits on Wed nights.Based on…Continue

Edwardstown Summer Track Racing

Started by Dahondude. Last reply by Dahondude Dec 6, 2013. 15 Replies

Week 2 of the summer track racing series at Edwardstown run by South Coast Cycling Club. It was my first night of racing for me this season. Heaps of juniors, big C grade bunch and perfect weather.…Continue

PACC Winter Track Season

Started by Darren. Last reply by Darren Jul 21, 2013. 16 Replies

For those that are interested in racing on the track, PACC are holding their Winter Track season at the Superdrome on the 4th Wednesday of each month, April through to September.  This Wednesday…Continue

AHVCC Tour of Goolwa

Started by Muddies. Last reply by RD6 Feb 10, 2013. 3 Replies good to me. I can't go to Minlaton this year as it falls on Fran's 50th birthday (yes, she…Continue

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Comment by Phil Crick on April 12, 2014 at 19:28

Video from the TTT stage at Minlaton - team Super Elliots.

Comment by Michelle on April 11, 2014 at 16:46

Trent either way the accident got me thinking and yeah the more serious accidents happen at high speeds and bigger groups. Just think that maybe some structure would help everyone..

Comment by Phil Crick on April 11, 2014 at 15:34

It's not 100% clear, and I'm not prepared to discuss it on a public forum given the severity of the injuries that resulted from the accident. Although I would say that if the accident hadn't happened where it did, it would have happened somewhere else.

Comment by Trent on April 11, 2014 at 15:00

was the accident at minlaton caused by a careless or inexperienced rider? i havent really heard much about it.

Comment by Phil Crick on April 11, 2014 at 14:58

I'll be raising this at the next VETs committee meeting. I think there needs to be an introduction session for all new racers before competing in an actual race (both on and off road). Serious accidents aren't fun for anyone and I for one don't want to see another accident like the one at Minlaton at the weekend. 

Comment by Michelle on April 11, 2014 at 14:35

Yes Darren some structure would be good for all. If anyone has any concerns please raise them with your club/committee and they will be passed to the powers that be and maybe sometime in the future something will be done :-)

As for CX training I believe something is happening on 18th May -  stay tuned :-)

Comment by The Sports Pharmacist on April 11, 2014 at 13:31

I think the bunch riding skills are of vital importance. It can be pretty sketchy at times when somebody who has never riddin in a bunch comes along. One of the things I have always been told is "if you are bit unsure or uncomfortable, just sit on the back of the bunch, watch and learn". Unfortunately, a lot of first time racers get the rush of having a race number on their back and want to get amongst it.

Maybe there should be a "step-up" process before progressing to graded and handicap racing - I am not entirely sure how this could or would work though....I know that PACC occasionally holds skills sessions for riders new to CX racing, which is a fantastic way to gain confidence before racing :)

Comment by Michelle on April 11, 2014 at 12:25

I guess a bit of both I have raced a few women's races and started racing Vets this year and at my level there is not much of an issue. It just strikes me that whilst encouraging people to cycle and possibly race just anyone can get a licence. 
Not everyone is as conscious and take things step by step and those unwritten rules as you put it and the written rules should be considered and heavily enforced. 

As you say " Being able to handle a bike in a race situation (higher speed cornering, holding your line etc) is a lot different from understanding race tactics and etiquite."

Matt I'm not sure it should be up to the more experienced riders to teach newer riders as you could be sharing miss information or bad habits. It should come from the state/club level. 

Yes newer riders do stand out so maybe that's not the answer and at Edwardstown track all the riders in the bunch are told who is new to the track, so maybe it's just something as simple as that.

I know from a coaching perspective there are guidelines for the juniors at the velodrome and soon to be for road racing too but think this should be across all sections of racing. 

Maybe it's just the bad experience of Minalton (don't think we will be going again either) but I know crashes do happen and accidents are accidents.
Just putting it out there to try and think of ways to help the sport for everyone - I'm very inexperienced in these matters but on a long drive you get time to think and discuss these things.

Comment by Trent on April 11, 2014 at 11:54

Well said Darren

Comment by The Sports Pharmacist on April 11, 2014 at 11:49

To put a bit of a spin on the question.....are you referring to experience in riding in a bunch, or experience with how to ride a race? Being able to handle a bike in a race situation (higher speed cornering, holding your line etc) is a lot different from understanding race tactics and etiquite.

I will use myself as an example - before taking up racing, I did quite a few Bike SA rides (Grand Slam series, Coast to Coast, Amy's ride). I learned how to handle a bike in a bunch, I learned what a rotating paceline was and I learned how to ride in one. However, i still had no idea what to expect from a race or what unwritten rules should be followed.

Is there need to "advertise" those who are new to racing? No. A new rider with little to no bunch riding experience sticks out fairly obviously; and although it may seem a bit rude, the experienced riders are more than happy to tell new riders off for doing the wrong thing (I was yelled at a few times in my first race).

In saying all of that, there is talk of holding "skills sessions" for new racers, to learn basic bike handling skills required for racing. This still won't teach you how to race though ;)


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