The video show some disturbing footage and the article doesn't make it any better. Although, there is mention of a white helmet campaign & I'm wondering if anyone is already thinking along these lines in ADL or whether we could advance the idea. Happy to assist with leg work towards council(s), etc.

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I am not interested, especially as I believe such a campaign will not work.

The media approves and posts comments from drivers who are anti-cycling. For example, I saw one cyclist do the wrong thing, therefore all cyclists are the same. Omit that more drivers than cyclists, and equates to more drivers than cyclists doing the wrong thing. In this Australian culture, even if all cyclists were 'prefect', reckon drivers would then find another reason to berate cyclists. Like the myth that drivers pay wholly for the roads, and cyclists pay nothing.

Heather, i just opened up the advertiser, I know you don't read that so I won't post the link, but the title of the article reads... "Cycling fines soar as reckless drivers dodge punishment".

Heather, when I was in 7th grade I came home with a bad report card. Being berated by my father, I defended myself by pointing out that the class average was even lower. He didn't care, said I should rise above mediocrity and prove I was better.

A campaign like this would be a chance for cyclists, for you, to show that cyclists do not break the laws and are not interested in (maintaining) bad blood between cyclists and other road users (Bicycle QLD calls it a rift). I think most road users would actually welcome and support the gesture, because, as Anne Savage of Bicycle QLD points out, those posting hate online and the incident in the video, are "from the extreme fringe"; they don't represent the majority (but they are extremely vocal).

Rather than sticking bits of white cloth on helmets - much more sensible would be to adopt the Qld cycling review recommendation to do away with mandatory helmet legislation. Maybe that'd help to reduce the stigma somewhat.

A multi-layered approach is probably the best way forward, so changing helmet laws, alongside a truce campaign, alongside driver education, more & better infrastructure,...

But doing away with helmet laws, as a first solution, might actually make perception among drivers worse, probably along the line of 'more PC politicians giving in to leftist cycling arrogance', 'they get to run over people on the footpath, they get to hold up traffic, they don't pay rego for the roads, they take up space from cars for their bike lanes, and now they don't even have to wear a helmet.... it's like not wearing a seatbelt in the car'. I'd also be surprised if in that type of environment changes to helmet laws would get more people on a bike. As long as attitudes don't change, I'm inclined to be on the side of maintaining helmet laws (and I'm familiar with the research about the efficacy of bike helmets). And with attitude changes, it takes two to tango and someone has to take the first step.

Really? I see the polar opposite. Australia is an aberration. The vast majority of cycling fines are helmet fines - an offence which doesn't even exist in 98% of the world - there would be a significant drop in fines without MHLs. Basically all surveys indicate more people would ride bicycles if MHLs were repealed. Maybe if people could ride bikes at the park without the mandatory dork hat it would translate to better attitudes on the road - certainly normalising bareheaded cycling would help to humanise a bicycle rider and help to reduce the us/them mentality.

How many years of the failed "it will just take more education" do we need?

Carlos, breathe.... :-)

"A multi-layered approach is probably the best way forward, so (including) changing helmet laws,...".

"an offence that doesn't even exist in 98% of the world".... (I've lived 3/4 of my life in countries without MHL and have been riding on the street since the age of 6, most of it without helmet, and I've just added a 4th 'crash' to my repertoire, while wearing a helmet and it did nothing to avoid the injuries I've sustained).

But, let me ask you what you think is a safe driving speed (cars)?

Built up area (CBD, residential rd, ...):

Main Rd (ADL ring route): 

Country highway:


Looks like 35km/h for residential roads. But it's neither here nor there.

Strict Liability Legislation thank you very much...

They say it is not a perfect panacea however it would work just fine in our Queensland example and would equally apply to those footpath cyclists bowling over pedestrians that appears to worry some.

How do you think strict liability would work against cyclists on footpaths when "they can't be identified without registration"?

I'd second that.

Here is something for the Queenslaners , , as yet I haven't seen anything like this for South Australians and I don't know anything about the legalities of this . All I know is that any way we can be made a lot safer would be a big plus .  This, along with driver / cyclist education and more off road infrastructure .


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