I have recently realised the potential death trap that is the Plympton Park tram / pedestrian / bike crossing. See the attached file for some images about this issue. This crossing is currently putting lives of both adults and kids (including school children) at risk every day (during peak hour traffic). The crossing is regularly used by cyclists riding along the Mike Turtur bike path between Glenelg and the Adelaide CBD, which claims to be the busiest bike commuting route in Adelaide.
Some more details on the problem and how the numerous near misses that I’ve witnessed occur:
I consider the fix to be a pretty simple one, and involves installing two additional stop lights on the eastern side of the tram crossing that are linked to the ones on the western side of the tram crossing. These are only required for the east-bound lanes on the northern side of Cross Road.
A very similar situation occurs for northbound traffic on Morphett Road at the Oaklands railway crossing, which is part of the Marino Rocks greenway.
Have you reported this to DPTI or Marion Council? I suggest you do.
I suspect they're well aware of the problem, after all it's been like that since it was built. Safe cycling involves determining if your path is about to be crossed by an errant motorist, only optimists get run over thinking a green crossing light is 100% safe.
The proper solution of course is a bicycle flyover like the one being built over South Rd on the Outer Harbor line, but you know what the chances are of of that happening this century.
Actually I think that might be progressing somewhat. I went down Chief street and you can see the path is laid either side along the line. I took a look from Day Tce and I think I saw some progress on the addon. It's going to be on the North side of the line, and I think entry to it will be at the end of Day Tce (so as short as possible)
Yes, the Outer Harbor Greenway is one of my regular rides and I've been keeping an eye on progress. The holes for mounting the Day Tce ramp were drilled by one bloke months ago, not sure what the holdup is/was there. I took the train back to Adelaide a couple of weeks ago just to have a sticky beak at the rail workings up close. There was still a lot of work to do to the path closer to Park Terrace.
Wow, I see what you mean. In short: too long a distance between the traffic light (at the tram line) and the pedestrian crossing (maybe 40 metres east), on the eastbound side. That is a very dangerous situation, and easily fixed by a couple of extra lights, in sync with the existing ones.
No way should it wait the many years (if ever) for a bridge, especially since children use it.
Have you written to anyone about this, and what was the response?
I've no idea what short-stacking is, but I don't see how there can be a problem if the potential new lights (A2 in my picture) are exactly in phase with the existing lights. (Or even better, A2 goes red very slightly after A).
As for moving the crossing, I would have thought that is possible too - other pedestrian crossings are closer to the tram line. (Goodwood Road for example).
I am not familiar with the road, so am going from the diagrams, descriptions and Google Streetview. If I understand you correctly Dave, you are suggesting that the solution might be to paint yellow hatching on the road all the way from the stop line before the tram line down to the bike/ped crossing. This is intended to indicate to drivers that they should not cross the stop line until they can see their way clear to not have to stop on the yellow hatching. Did I correctly understand this is the first part of your proposal? That looks like it might be a total of about 50 metres (if I am using the Google scale approximately right). Would DPTI be happy with the traffic waiting to cross the tram line until it can see clear to also complete crossing the bike crossing? I imagine that would disrupt flow quite a bit further back too, at times when the current issue occurs (Marion Road queue fills past the bike crossing).
They should just get rid of the stupid maze/zig zag and make the crossing parallel to the tramline.
The two-phase crossing means that cyclists and pedestrians alike ignore the crossing timings and just cross when they feel like it. The tight fenced in area in the middle along with slippery manhole covers is a hazard for cyclists.
Peter, I not am familiar with the crossing, but your drawing easily explains a potential hazard. Another instance of a picture is worth a thousand words.