"Hi Mark thank you for at least posting this and asking the question.
What the answer proves is that the Politicians in SA are ignorant bigots , apparently quite incapable of independent thought and seem to have a total disregard for civil…"
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Bike Helmets in State Parliament
Started this discussion. Last reply by stephen 2 hours ago. 32 Replies 0 Likes
I know this topic gets folk either groaning or growling, but last year, in Parliamentary Question Time, I asked the Transport Minister whether or not the Govt would consider a trial of optional bike…Continue
Belair Train Closure latest
Started this discussion. Last reply by David Southern Dec 13, 2012. 25 Replies 1 Like
I've spent both morning and afternoon peak hours recently talking to passengers on the Belair line, (including several cyclists) about the impact of the pending 6 month closure of the line. I'm not…Continue
Local Councils & Bike lane education
Started this discussion. Last reply by heather Oct 10, 2012. 7 Replies 1 Like
Here's a snippet from the latest Local Govt Association newsletter. Nice to see them taking bike lanes seriously, especially illegally parked cars.Continue
Humans could learn from grasshoppers
Started this discussion. Last reply by rossmg Sep 10, 2012. 6 Replies 0 Likes
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Ian Smith replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"Tim, it's the same mentality that continuously touts the anecdote that car driving is safe and that cycling is dangerous or that cycling is too dangerous for the kids going to school, therefore we will drive them there, thus making it…"
Tim replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"And therein lies the rub. For every study which suggests one thing there is another which suggests the other. In the case of the Canadian study cited above it is one of the very few which concludes that helmet laws don’t impact cycling rates.…"
rossmg replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"Nick - I focused on the study that the SA government used to base its answer on. Still have yet to sit down and look over it properly, work and all that kind of stuff you might appreciate.
As before, if the minister involved is going to make…"
Darren replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"And the cycle continues...
So apparently the fundamental issue is if the overall benefit of MHL outweighs the overall cost. The "true skeptics" cite countries like Holland as prime examples of high cycling participation without…"
Tim replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"Ha ha ha. Did you actually read the Canadian report you cite? Did you see their data set? Did you notice any inconsistencies? Was it an observational study? Does observational data agree with it?
Ah, Olivier and Grzebieta, you know, when we used to…"
Nick Lothian replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"I specifically didn't get into analysis of the paper or your argument - I'm merely pointing out that using statistics to derive causation is a valid and well understood process.
So far as the effect of MHL on bike usage, I'd…"
rossmg replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"@Nick - Of course prompting you to validate your claim sort of doesn't work for me .. The following appears to be the research paper cited by the SA government:
72 odd pages of fun stuff - groan - I'll have dig and see if I can identify…"
Mark Parnell MLC replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"One of the main problems with "Question Time" is that you can only ask direct questions of the Ministers that are in your House. There are only 2 in the Legislative Council and they have limited portfolios. That means Qs on all other…"
Not an electronic mouse replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"Thanks Mark. I am not in favour of abandoing MHL but I note the interesting use of grammar in response to part 2 which I read as; "The Minister for Transport and Infrastructure has been advised that No". I suspect the department drafted a…"
Edward @bikeadelaide replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"+1
You could be forgiven for thinking that was the end of the debate as far as Gail Gago is concerned."
"Schadenfreude, now that is a new one-lol...
I don't get the fuss, ride a bike, wear a helmet. Easy...
Nuff said?"
rossmg replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"Thanks for that, nonetheless I'll have to take the stance that the government did not rely upon a thorough and correct analysis of the data - happy if you can actually show otherwise...
Similarly, the second and final point is pure waffle ..…"
heather replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"If certain politicians and authorities are concerned about protecting cyclists from injuries, why don't they:
-- enact Strict Liability Legislation
-- introduce better vehicle design re vulnerable road users, e.g. bonnet air bags, ban steel…"
MARK FERGUSON (SPARTACUS) replied to Mark Parnell MLC's discussion Bike Helmets in State Parliament"Which Mark?"
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- Greens member of the Legislative Council in the SA Parliament with responsibility for transport, planning & climate change. I've been a commuter & touring cyclist for 30 years.
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Comment Wall (5 comments)
- At 19:54 on June 10, 2012, stephen said…
Hi Mark
Nice of you to drop in I hope you will support the repeal of bike helmet laws and end discrimination against bike use and users such as myself.20 Years of failure and no proof of benefit is enough reason to end this law now.
http://crag.asn.au/?p=679
What is the present greens party view on repealing bike helmet laws ?
Are they aware of the repressive and damaging effect this law has on green transport for so long now. ?
- At 15:02 on June 8, 2012,
Daniel Lynch said…
Very exciting! I think it will be a valuable asset; any chances to also make it for Android?
- At 0:15 on June 6, 2012, heather said…
Hi Mark,
Welcome to Adelaide Cyclists and 3 cycling advocacy groups that I coordinate (Adelaide BUG, Look For Cyclists and Vote For Cyclists). I already send the monthly BUG News to your office. In the current issue that I emailed this week, your public post on AC of 15-May-2012 appears on page 11 under 4.1 Cyclist safety campaign.
We met briefly at the opening of the Mike Turtur overpass as I passed around a petition to keep bicycle lanes on arterial roads. Yes, you signed it.
In my Dec-2011 submission to the National Transport Commission, I referred to Look For Cyclists where I had collated links to AC posts on cycling incidents (Collisions, Near Misses, and Cyclists Assaulted or Objects Thrown) to indicate that improvements are needed in Australian Road Rules and Vehicle Design Rules.
All Adelaide BUG members are invited to a cycling coffee meet-up tomorrow / Wednesday lunchtime at Aroma Cafe on North Terrace. Understand if you are busy. Info at
http://www.adelaidecyclists.com/events/lunchtime-coffee-meet-up-for-my-birthdayCheers, Heather
- At 23:49 on June 5, 2012,
David B.o.R. said… - Hi Mark, a good few years back we shared facilities in Parliament House (I was working in the library). I was just starting up as a regular cyclist.
Your advice and encouragement was really important in my not quitting the cycling habit back in those crucial early months.
So thanks and welcome to the site.
- At 16:17 on March 1, 2011, heather said…
Hi Mark, I will pretend that my sending you Prospect BUG monthly newsletters, with cycling news and the Adelaide Cyclists link, encouraged you to join.
Heather, Coordinator of Adelaide BUG, Prospect BUG & Vote For Cyclists
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