why jump stop signs

to all those who visit the bay,and jump the moseley st/jetty rd  stop sign-may I ask that you actually stop .had a close call this morning walking my dog down for a swim-the offending cyclist nearly incurred karma when his rear wheel fell into the tram tracks around the corner,luckily he unclipped and stayed on.so what does stop mean to you?,cya ,pedro

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Permalink Reply by Duncan Fowler on February 27, 2012 at 12:20

Sensors in vehicle lanes pick up alloy rims just fine... but not carbon rims, as I discovered one day after about 3 traffic light cycles (and lots of patient driver behind me...).

Permalink Reply by rossmg on February 27, 2012 at 12:32

Traffic light sensors pick up my half carbon, half alloy Giant just fine. I usually roll over the central pick up. I would be curious as to tests with a full carbon bike with just the drive train and brakes being metal.

Permalink Reply by Frank on February 27, 2012 at 13:16

It picks up the alloy?

Does not pick up mine or my mates, carbon and titanium brakes and cassettes!

 

It may pick up your cleats but doubt if that is enough to change the inductance!

Permalink Reply by Frank on February 27, 2012 at 13:43

Just chatted to our mechanical engineers and the alloy or titanium may or may not trigger but a strong magnet mounted on bottom of bicycle or scooter should definately do it.

In the city, most lights are times based and even the buttons to make the little man go green to cross the road is a feel good thing as the lights are on timers.

Permalink Reply by Adam Williss on February 27, 2012 at 14:34

I have a carbon bike and always seem to get picked up...?

Permalink Reply by rossmg on February 27, 2012 at 20:49

This topic has popped up a few times of late and I have been testing with my roadie (Giant from 1999) that has carbon tubes, alloy joints and an alloy fork. I have triggered various lights when no other vehicles we around at all by simply rolling over the (as noted above) central sensor pick-up.

Permalink Reply by Frank on February 27, 2012 at 21:18
No sensor pick up! A metal object simply changes the inductance, it's the change that sets off a trigger! Some old lights had tubes or lasers!
Permalink Reply by Specialised Roubaix on February 27, 2012 at 12:46

I agree Steve its the Law, what frustrates me is the law is the same when the traffic is busy & visibility is poor  and the same when no traffic and good visibility.  It seems common sense & personal responsibility count for little now adays.  "the law' didnt stop a car potentially squeezing me turning into Light square, my common sense told me to stay back & watch the car cut across the bike lane. 

reading the AC posts had alerted me to this possibility

Permalink Reply by Steven Ellison on February 27, 2012 at 13:01
I understand your frustation. Unfortunate the problem is not when it is quiet or busy but at some point inbetween where it is marginal between safe to proceed or to do as the law dictates. Common sense is in reality a grey line which can not be predicted between indeviduals that's why we have laws. I hate to stop at red lights when there are no cars anywhere.
Permalink Reply by trappy on February 27, 2012 at 10:49

When I'm on my Own i STOP and obey the rules but when i am riding with others - if i do i get left behind so i do as they do :)

Permalink Reply by Simon Lownsborough on February 27, 2012 at 11:34

Stop. There was a time when I would ride through if I considered it safe. But I see other cyclists run reds (saw one this morning) and it leaves a bad impression. So I don't want to be the one leaving a bad impression. When someone says to me "cyclists break the law" at least I can say I don't.

Might not help your Strava, but it probably adds a little strength training…

Having said that, its a bl00dy shame this state can't be a little more progressive and cycle-friendly. Turning left on reds and crossing t-junctions WHEN SAFE TO DO SO should be law. Just for starters.

Permalink Reply by Alex on February 27, 2012 at 13:19

I ALWAYS stop and wait at red lights but I must admit that I often only slow down but don't completely stop at stop signs.  I go pretty slow though and wouldn't proceed without a good long look.  It's a bit easier to see on a bike so I suppose I must percieve it as low risk.

I stop if anything is coming of course (including pedestrians who expect me to stop).

Having said all that I did get a fine when I slowly rolled through a stop sign in my car about 20 years ago so I don't exactly have a spotless record.

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