why jump stop signs
to all those who visit the bay,and jump the moseley st/jetty rd stop sign-may I ask that you actually stop .had a close call this morning walking my dog down for a swim-the offending cyclist nearly incurred karma when his rear wheel fell into the tram tracks around the corner,luckily he unclipped and stayed on.so what does stop mean to you?,cya ,pedro
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Permalink Reply by Not an electronic mouse on -
Duncan - I assume you are joking with the "Leave the whinging about people breaking the road rules to us cyclists, about car drivers, please Pedro..." comment. I think that on a percentage basis, there are more cyclists breaking the road rules than car drivers.
Cyclist breaking road rules is a bad look. We should set the example.
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Permalink Reply by Steven Ellison on -
Well said!
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Permalink Reply by Doddsy on -
People won't obey rules that don't ensure their safety, unless we make drastic changes we'll always have people that don't comply or simply just don't consider riding a bicycle for transport.
The notion that you have to be a little bit crazy to ride a bicycle in Australia speaks for itself.
Crazy people generally aren't well behaved.
There is a shortage of Australians on bicycles.
I'd be happy if more idiots started riding bicycles.
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Permalink Reply by Duncan Fowler on -
I was definitely joking. Cyclists should always try and obey the road rules - it is one way of earning the respect of drivers. While breaking some rules may risk no harm, I can see how it would annoy, and add to the frustration of, those poor souls stuck in their metal coffins.
But I was also joking in the sense that I sometimes think we are a bit hypocritical - we seem to be always jumping on car drivers breaking the rules, but quite happy to flout them ourselves.
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Permalink Reply by Doddsy on
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Yep,
My experience is cyclists seem to be better behaved in countries where they make infrastructure and rules that accommodate the differences between motorised and non motorised forms of transport.
I'll criticise any road user that behaves in an unpredictable or aggressive manner.
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Permalink Reply by heather on -
I used to think that a cyclist should always obey the road rules. Reading extract from a study and Doddsy's posts educated me otherwise, but I still do not have the guts to run red lights. A study found that female cyclists, c.f. male cyclists, are more likely to be hit because they follow the road rules.
Intersections are some of the most dangerous place for cyclists, so better to safely get out of the way quickly. Unsafe to illegally cycle straight across an intersection when vehicles crossing your path. But safer to turn left with care on a red light. Introduced in Paris, being considered in London, and recently raised by ACC. You could email ACC to say you support this.
Consider King William Road when riding north. At the T-junction with Victoria Drive, would be much safer to run the red light. The left lane is coloured red and 'bus only'. The next lane is skinny and no safe place for cyclists. If you wait for the green light (like silly me), then you get squeezed at the next intersection where the cycling space narrows further. Cyclists have only one-metre width to cycle in, and no room for the many buses to overtake cyclists with care and at least one-metre clearance. The 4WDs also overtake unsafely (wider than a car).
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Permalink Reply by Dstone on -
I cant think of any ride that is so important that im in such a hurry that I need to run red lights etc break laws. Might just be me but I dont see how a couple minutes here or there makes such a difference. And I am on very strick deadlines when I ride.
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