Warnie and inciting more bike rage
I thought that we may have heard the last from Shane Warne regarding his distaste for cyclists lately but we arent so lucky. see below article.
i am getting concerned that as this happened to a "celebrity" people will take it in to their own hands to now become more vocal and aggressive to cyclists out and about. stuff like this happens every day but is never reported on or taken seriously by media or authorities.
i dont know what the solution is but i do not think that compulsory registration of bike is the answer. i would like to see further education of drivers AND cyclists made a priority.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/warnie-lets-fly-with-bike-rage/story-...
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Permalink Reply by Darren Bosanko on -
Ahh the old bike registration chestnut....Seriously what would it achieve? Allow disgruntled motorists to report cyclists that pee them off? Does it stop the idiot motorists out there? Who out number delinquent cyclist 10 (or more) to one? I'd say no.
Whilst your out in your car, how many times a day does someone cut in front of you, fail to give way, or just plain in considerate? At least once? Perhaps more? A motorist has an 'incident' with a cyclist and suddenly the sky is falling in. The rage seems to be magnified. Whats with this phenomenon?
Warne should stick to what he knows...Botox, sms and dating has been's. Never liked him, never will.
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Permalink Reply by Kasey VP on -
Exactly right Darren, how many cars see other cars doing 'stupid shit'on the road and think.."I'm going to take down his/her rego and report him to the coppers"??...bugger all is my guess. IMO All rego for cyclists would do is place a further impediment in the road to getting more people on bikes.
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Permalink Reply by heather on -
I have added some info at http://www.adelaidecyclists.com/group/lookforcyclists/forum/topics/...
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Permalink Reply by Frank on
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Shane is/was very good at what he does, spin a ball and a bit of a yarn!
Good on him but sadly a cyclist has gotten in his way and perhaps he dropped his phone whilst he was driving and texting.
I respect him for his achievements etc but as a person, have not had much respect for him.
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Permalink Reply by Adam Williss on -
Agree with your further education comments Trent, and agree with your comments also Darren.
However, would a mechanism (rego / whatever...) that could identify bad cyclists be a bad thing? Why shouldn't cyclists be just as identifiable as cars when breaking the law? I can think of many occasions where I would have loved to report cyclists behaving badly. The intangible positive is that it "could" take some of the anger / resentment / frustration away from car drivers. Just thought I'd throw that out there....
Nevertheless, Warnie's comments do nothing but incite more cyclist vs car angst.
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Permalink Reply by Tim on -
Over the years I've seen a number of pedestrians kick cars after the drivers had enraged them. Clear case of criminal property damage, but these pedestrians are unable to be tracked, unable to be easily identified, they are anonymous trouble makers. Bar codes? RFIDs? What can be done to make them accountable for their actions?
Public policy requires reasonable foundations and needs to strike a balance between public good and personal harm. There are a number of issues with bicycle registration that are well documented. Leave the "debate" to Murdoch's redneck "news" sites, no point doing it here.
If a driver has anger/resentment/frustration problems then being in control of a 2 tonne machine traveling at dangerous speeds is the problem - somehow our society deems this as being normal.
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Permalink Reply by Darren Bosanko on
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Lets try and educate and change attitudes rather than point fingers and see who we can 'ping' this week. Cycling works in many countries and I think we are at the start of change here in Aust. If you want me to pay a fee to cycle on the roads, so be it. Don't expect me to wear a registration plate. We'd be the laughing stock of the country/world.
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Permalink Reply by Darren on -
I do get annoyed when I see other cyclists flouting road rules, but it happens no more than I see cars doing the same! Every time cyclist ride 4 abreat or run a red light it gives these AdelaideNow morons more amunition. Comments like "why don't they stay in their lane" are just ignorant of the condition of the tarmac, the rubbish that collects, or the need to maintain a consistent line after overtaking one car parked in the bike lane only to find another ahead. Seriously, if half these idiots got on a bike and tried to negotiate our bike lane network and other road users they'd soon work it out. But they won't... because its "too dangerous"!
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Permalink Reply by Mike Brisco on -
Accepting Warne's account at face value - the cyclist seems in the wrong - it's not legal to hold onto vehicles to get a tow.
However, Mr Warne is not a policman. It isnt his job, to decide when people do/dont break the law. It's not his job, to enforce the law, or punish people who break it. Which is precisely, what he seems to have done here.
Mr Warne also chose to ignore, standard police advice, on what to do, when a misbehaving road user confronts or provokes you. The advice is: Don't respond; just let them go their way. Warne by contrast chose to yell at the cyclist. He also chose, apparently, to drive dangerously.
All this is clear, merely from Warne's own account of the incident.
The cyclists side of it would be interesting to hear.
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Permalink Reply by Peter Hill on -
Mike, that is a funny expression to use for shane warne!
"Face Value"!!
in his case his new face probably 'accounted' for about $10K, but given the emptiness behind it, it is still pretty valueless!
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Permalink Reply by Darren on
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Agreed, but if the cyclist by Warne's actions grabbed at the car to avoid a more serious fall then I wouldn't think that would be considered illegal?
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Permalink Reply by Doddsy on -
Darren asked "Agreed, but if the cyclist by Warne's actions grabbed at the car to avoid a more serious fall then I wouldn't think that would be considered illegal?"
If you have right of way and there is contact, The person who did not have right of way is at fault.
In other words, if someone is driving like a douche and swerves at you, you can hit their car (as a reflex), call it an accident (because it is) and ask the motorist if they'd like to hang around and get the police to sort it out.
Its not something i'd premiditate because it has the potential to perpuate into a very dangerous game of cat and mouse. But yeah, if it happens.
"It was an accident, I had right of way, you're at fault."
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