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Permalink Reply by rossmg on July 19, 2011 at 21:00

Really? Which way to you ride into Adelaide CBD?

I ride down The Parade and rarely see such behavior other than the occasional cyclist jumping a red light which I might add is invariably when it is safe - ie no approaching traffic.

Permalink Reply by Not an electronic mouse on July 20, 2011 at 10:02

Yes, really! Cross Roads isn't too bad, it starts toward the Greenhill Rd end of King William Rd then gets progressively worse as I approach the CBD where the number of cyclists increase. I think the dangerous passing is prompted by slower cyclists. Just like the behaviour of bad car drivers that just can't bear the idea of someone getting to the next set of lights before them. The footpath riding and red light running is also at its worst in the CBD.

Permalink Reply by GlenM on July 20, 2011 at 12:31

In the suburbs I rarely get passed by another cyclist on the left when I am commuting they mostly the wait for a gap in the traffic and pass on the right.

In the CBD it's fairly common that I get passed on the left by other cyclists.  It usually happens at intersections and it get really annoying when as soon as they have passed you they slow right down and hold you up.

 

Permalink Reply by colin ware-lane on July 20, 2011 at 22:11

even if they were not speeding if your in the middle of a junction having run a red light and get hit its your own fault i repeat dumb and illegal

Permalink Reply by Justin Dunn on July 18, 2011 at 23:44

Thats a bad name for cyclist's.
I wouldnt do that to make cyclist's look bad by running a red light,
I would rather flow with the traffic (no red lights) by pedalling the same speed as the cars, unformately I can get from A to B in quicker/less time than driving myself in the van.

I would advise you not to run red lights as your own life is more important than being late for your employer, its not your fault that there are other traffic in adelaide which makes a trip longer than it has to be in real life.

Not worth copping a fine or putting your life on the line, If a Copper see you, he will pull you over and fine you as for a cyclist you will get fined just like any other motorist.

Justin

Permalink Reply by Doddsy on July 19, 2011 at 8:38

A high profile death gives cycling a bad name.

 

As sad as it is, when some poor cyclist gets cleaned up while obeying the rules (and they do) people get turned off cycling because it makes them fear for their safety. 

 

That gives cycling a bad name, not some bloke who looks before he decides to cross a road.

 

Permalink Reply by Trevor Hill on July 19, 2011 at 14:36

All I can say is that one day, maybe not today, not tomorrow, maybe in 6 or 12 month time or even longer, but one day its going to all end in tears. May not be you tears, could be a relative, friend or lover. Don't tempt fate.

Permalink Reply by Doddsy on July 19, 2011 at 16:33

People exercising their right to cross a road when safe to do so definitely gives humanity a bad name.

 

Permalink Reply by Clive Palfrey on July 19, 2011 at 22:26

People do not have the right to cross the road or railway if the lights are red, neither legally or morally. We know people do, we know that 99.9% of the members of this group have done so, some more than others but very few would encourage such behaviour or believe they have some kind of right to do it. The only moral that should be under consideration here is the moral reprehensibility of actually telling people that they  have the right to break the law and therefore should break the law.

Oh and one other thing, if we don't want bogans and rev heads telling Adelaidians what they should or should not be doing what makes you think we want or need somebody who lives on the other side of the country telling us apart from the ones we elected.

Permalink Reply by Doddsy on July 19, 2011 at 23:43

The internet makes it easier for the world to communicate Clivey.

Get used to it.

I'm not telling you what you should or should not be doing, i'm engaging in an online debate and messing with Godwins Law.

Once It was illegal to be Jewish in Warsaw.
It was also against the Law to have Aboriginal Parents.

Yet we are still expected to conform and adhere to rules and infrastructure that prioritises automobiles before people.

Hence Average joe being scared to ride a bicycle down under. 

 

 

Permalink Reply by Edward @bikeadelaide on July 19, 2011 at 23:49

Exactly right. We should remember that all of those signs, lines on the road and traffic lights were put there slowly over time to keep cars in check - not bicycles. They are necessary because of the danger that cars expose us to. That is why motorists should obey them. If it is safe to cross though, I see no issue with riding or walking across the road even though some robot may be displaying a red light. If you are more than 15 metres away from the junction, it's legal anyway.

Permalink Reply by Doddsy on July 19, 2011 at 23:58

Maybe we should continue this discussion elsewhere...

http://www.adelaidecyclists.com/forum/topics/traffic-lights-gone-st...

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