Using Jak3d means one will be hitting adrenal burn out in due time. I see it all the time in the fitness industry.
i sometimes mix in some Glucodin with my post-ride drinks if I'm really wiped out. Works nicely for me.
I take a glucodin tablet about every twenty minutes during a ride - - always got some in the back pocket.
Ive been vegan for 11 years now. No protein powders or recovery shakes. Just real food. I ran a pb for 10 000m on Sunday with a time of 34:19. Im 35. Ripe spotty bananas are my fav meal.
I eat 600g + per day of simple sugars. Im single digit body fat all year long. This year have riden about 150km a week on average with about 20km a week of jogging. Genetically I have 'overweight genes' too. Its ALL about eating low fat, low protein, high carb.
This is my GF. She does even less training and is in better shape and health then when she was 18. She is another crazy high carb low fat low protein vegan.
This is a photo of me in NYC a few weeks ago. I only know a handful of guys that eat as much simple sugars and low fat/protein as I do. We all look the same.
Our fav smoothy meal.
I don't know which photo to drool over -- my body shape has changed due to endocrine probs.
Choc milk works best - http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/recipes/healthy-eating/superfoods/ch...
The reason that milk works, and high cal, lo fat milk is even better, is that one of the important things required for recovery is calcium.
It is amazing how many vegans were leather shoes !