Question about a gutter "lip" on Port Rd next to tram extension

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Permalink Reply by Mike Giffen on January 27, 2010 at 5:50am

I suspect that there is another layer of hotmix to be added before the road is finished - this is quite common on 'new' roads

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Permalink Reply by Katie C on January 27, 2010 at 8:42am

That's a relief! Thanks for your reply.

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Permalink Reply by Road Repair Australia on January 31, 2010 at 10:13pm

Ah, road surfaces...

There are a bunch of people called "Road Authorities".

I suggest they should be cyclists before they qualify as a "Road Authority".

Here are some links to support this notion...

http://roadrepair.blogspot.com/2010/01/fwd-unsatisfactory-road-repa...

http://roadrepair.blogspot.com/2010/01/hazard-old-glenelg-tranline-...

http://roadrepair.blogspot.com/2009/06/anzac-highway-kerb-to-bitume...

None of the above hazards have been attended to.

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Permalink Reply by Jeremy Miller on February 8, 2010 at 9:25pm

Rode past this today and was unpleasantly surprised at how bad it is, will try and find out who is responsible for the current surface treatment and what the finished product is expected to be.... cheers!

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Permalink Reply by Jeremy Miller on February 13, 2010 at 8:42am

Hi All

Checked with the Adelaide City Council on this one and my questions were forwarded onto the project manager for the on-going works

It will be fixed as per this response:

"The answer is "Yes". The surface will be raised to match the gutter lip before the project is completed. The final wearing course is not laid until the project is nearing completion for various reasons:

1) there are a number of traffic shifts and line marking changes, so you want the final surface to only have the final line marking on
2) sometimes the heavy machinery can damage the asphalt, so it's best to happen on the underlying layers rather than the finished surface.
3) aesthetics - makes the whole thing look nice (brand new and smooth road surface"

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Permalink Reply by Peter Hill on May 9, 2010 at 11:52pm

A week ago a new problem arose with the tram extension.
The new kerbing on the Bonython Park side of the Port Road-George street intersection has no kerbing ramp from the traffic island to the bike/foot path in the park. Up until about a week ago a pile of crushed gravel was put against the kerb as a temporary measure, but coming home (in the dark) tuesday (27th April) the ramp had been removed. And it is a high kerb!
Wednesday I called Transport SA and they could see the problem with their camera. The guy on the phone expressed exaspiration at the stupidity of the situation and said give it about a week for them to sort it out.
I drove past it today and no change so I guess I'll will be on the phone again.
I'll photograph it this week and add it to the ever growing collection.
The photo from google earth (below) shows the ramp before the cock-up. No ramp now!

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Permalink Reply by Peter Hill on May 10, 2010 at 11:34pm

Further to my previous note here is what the Tram line has done to the kerb (photo below)
One would hope for better site management than this, especially as it has Major Project Status. That it is the 'Coast to Coast" (bet I know where they stole that name from!!) we can expect more stuff ups all the way down Port Road.

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Permalink Reply by Sam Powrie on May 12, 2010 at 9:22am

This discussion is great folks - this is how (I think) Adelaide Cyclists can really pull together to keep DTEI and Councils on their toes regarding cycling. I generally find most in DTEI and Councils are pretty responsive if they know we're on their cases - inevitably it's always a 'squeaky wheel' situation of course as all are pressed for time, money and effort.
Angus - perhaps we should have a place somewhere - either here or at the BISA web site - where the contact email addresses and phone numbers of various current major transport projects can be displayed for easy access so that cycling commuters and others who want to make their voices heard in a timely manner can more easily do so. What do you think?
And isn't a photo really worth a thousand words - great pic Peter!

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Permalink Reply by Peter Hill on May 29, 2010 at 9:46am

A happy ending for this. On the 26th May the kerb was cut off and a temporary gravel slope was made. The ramp will be properly surfaced with concrete "within a week".

But what a defeating process! It took them a month to do a 2 hour fix on it. It took me four or five phone calls and a couple of emails (and writing down names, times and their promises) over the last month. Everyone I spoke to was well meaning and apologetic but ultimately the management of the Major Project was unresponsive and uncoordinated.

I now understand what an uphill battle we face in trying to get Councils and PlanningSA and Transport and Infrastructure to do simple stuff like continuous network of well marked bike lanes. Phewww!

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Permalink Reply by Aidee on May 30, 2010 at 5:28pm

Thanks for organising this - had intentions of getting in contact with the relevant Project peeps and lo and behold the concrete had been cut.

How this managed to go unnoticed from a management perspective is beyond me as it is the only pedestrian access point into the parklands - sheesh

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Permalink Reply by Peter Hill on May 31, 2010 at 8:59pm

I'm now trying to work out if I'm pushing my welcome by complaining about the crossing button being on the wrong side of the pole! (again - see the photo).

Perhaps, Aidee, getting this crossing sorted out for cyclists could be a tag team effort and I'll pass the batten on to you! They might be deaf to my whinging by now!

Call the Dept Transport 'Coast to Coast' hotline (a.k.a. lame-arse answering service) on 1800 726 500.

I would suggest to them that they do not need another button and all they need to do is to just merge the two paths so that we can cycle (or 'steer our Gophers' or 'push my wheelchair') onto the right hand side of the pole.

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Permalink Reply by Aidee on May 31, 2010 at 11:38pm

And today was the first morning that I noticed that the button is next to useless - typically run a break in the traffic but too much traffic this morn.

Shall give them a call in the morning! And yup I had every intention of framing this as an accessibility issue and not as a cycling convenience, as importantly this IS about having an accessible access point (only) into the parklands.

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