I ride up Norton Summit a few times a week, mostly at dusk or just after and have been amazed by the number of riders descending rapidly in very poor light conditions without lights on their bikes.

Just in case you descenders hadn't noticed there are far too many idiot car drivers that seem to think it is perfectly safe to overtake riders on blind right hand corners when they are going up the hill. This has happened to me more times than I care to count.

Sooner or later one of those idiot drivers is going to time it perfectly and have an (idiot) unlit cyclist on or in the front of their car and it is going to be messy. I don't want to be the one calling the ambulance and sticking my fingers in holes in your body that aren't meant to be there to stop you bleeding to death. Or worse still locking lips with you for two breaths every thirty compressions to keep you alive while the ambulance arrives.

If you are one of those idiot cyclists put some bloody lights on your bike and give yourself a chance of being seen!

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save shaving tho :-)

+1 LOL

I use a NiteRider 350, does a good enough job.

What I'm looking for tho, is a good tail light that will fit an oval (sort of) wishbone rear stay. The ones I'd like to get all seem to have a mount designed for round tubing. 

Any suggestions welcome.

The Dinotte 400R has a lot of different shaped mounting clamps, one sould hopefully fityour tubes. http://www.dinottelighting.com/photographyb.htm

I use the Niteflux Red Zone 4. It attaches via wire clip or velcro strap so tube shape doesnt matter so much. I hook mine through the loop on the back of my under seat tool bag. They are very bright (5 modes of brightness and about 8 flash patterns) and have a very wide angle of view. About 100 bucks from BE or his online website inc,udes delivery ( he is based in Adelaide)

Not the cheapest tail light around, but nearly indestructable and can be used during the daylight

I'll check it out, thanx.

Could get the Tioga Dual Eyes (recommended by Bicycle Victoria). Fix it to your bike or helmet with a plastic tie (which can only be cut off) or wide elastic strip with velcro hand-sewn on (for easy taking on and off).

In Aug-2011 Clarks in eastern suburbs was selling this for $25.

I have an oval one and fitted the light just under the seat stay. Works well

I just went through Stirling, saw a roadie in black kit, rear light with a very short flash every two seconds (looked like a roadworks beacon?) , in front of the hospital he did a U turn in front of me and 2 other cars, need I say "YOU"RE DAFT!!!!"

Many Australians say the same thing about bike riders in general. 
Bike riders = Death.

Unconstructive discussion, You'd have a better chance of fixing this issue if you educate these people about the best lights and where to find the bargains. 

Whine, whine, whine. 

Yep. I've had a vent and feel better for it. I've done it on Adelaide's most popular cycling forum and now people are talking about all sorts of different lights before winter really arrives. A complete waste of time.

Personally I rather enjoyed this post. :-)

Certainly not a waste of time Luke... it's an open forum so everyone has their opinions..  For anyone who was thinking about getting a light and wasn't sure might have made up their mind after reading about some mentioned in this post.  :)

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