More on Lance's USADA doping case

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-hincapie-leipheimer-vande-ve...


According to Cycling News 5 former teammates have given evidence alleging that Armstrong doped, in exchange for a 6 month ban (which coincidentally doesn't start until the end of the season).

Sounds fishy to me.....and could be a few tense moments in the peleton today.

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Permalink Reply by Mikael Liddy on July 5, 2012 at 17:59

Vaughters is tweeting as if this is legit...the story has been broken by de Telegraf (Dutch), El Pais (Spanish) & Gazzetta, assumedly using the same sources. Apparently the UCI has sent USADA a bit of a please explain about why it's come out via the press & Prudhomme's already said he knows nothing of the matter & can't comment on any effect on the Tour.

Messy.

Permalink Reply by Tim B on July 5, 2012 at 18:46
I think Big George is the key, if he's talked, then the cards will fall as Lances normal defence is to discredit any witnesses, but he doesnt have that leverage with his best mate George.
Permalink Reply by Gus K on July 5, 2012 at 19:08
It's really sad for the sport and for this year's tour.

I agree they are some big names and Hincappie and Leipheimer are the names that sway my opinion.

Does this mean that Evans is the first clean cyclist to win the tour in 10 years... Sastre is probably the only one.
Permalink Reply by Martin Turner on July 5, 2012 at 19:57

Evans isn't as clean as you think he is.......for a start there are the Swisse vitamin pills and then there are those hardcore Winners Bars.

Permalink Reply by Dahondude on July 5, 2012 at 20:00

Evans should be stripped of his title just for making those bl**dy Swisse ads!

Permalink Reply by Martin Turner on July 5, 2012 at 23:01

Yeah....especially the first frame of that Swisse ad where Cadel flicks his head around and dons his sunglasses...it's so bad its good.

Permalink Reply by snappy_don on July 5, 2012 at 19:10

I'm not saying it shouldn't happen, but this prosecution feels me with sadness. We all know how much widespread influence and cred Lance's name carries, but George is such an icon too. We've had the whiff of suspicion about the other names....but I always liked George. *sigh*

Permalink Reply by VeloAvenger on July 5, 2012 at 19:46

So the teammates lie to U.S. Attorneys -dropped case but come clean to the Anti doping agency... Isn' the first perjury?

Permalink Reply by Mikael Liddy on July 5, 2012 at 22:51

nah as mentioned below, the US Attorney's course was all about whether there was evidence that the US Postal sponsorship money was funding doping, breaking the sponsorship agreements & defrauding a US govt agency.

The story claims that this list of riders came from those who gave evidence to that investigation but couldn't be tainted with the claims of having already been busted (i.e. Hamilton & Landis).

Permalink Reply by Martin Turner on July 6, 2012 at 17:33

Surely you'd prove that doping was actually going on before embarking on a case to prove that Armstrong was defrauding the US Postal Service by using their money to fund doping.

Permalink Reply by Dahondude on July 5, 2012 at 19:47

Yup I agree...George Hincapie rates alongside Voigt and O'Grady as stalwarts of whats good about pro cycling. What makes me smell a rat is that they have allegedly been offered a deal for fessing up...and a 6 month ban coinciding with the end of the season also seems to me to be more like a deal. Hypothetically speaking, what if the 5 have been put under enormous pressure to say things and then offered a deal that doesn't really stop them riding?

There's alot of unanswered questions...

If there were at least 6 guys doping how come none ever got caught?

What were they doing/taking that evaded WADA?

Why didn't these guys fess up when the initial investigation was done (ie what have USADA done to get them to talk now)?

Permalink Reply by Tim B on July 5, 2012 at 20:17
Above all else I hope Stuey And Jens are clean, it doesnt really bother me any more if Lance doped, I figured they were all doing it any way, it just annoys me that they are still lying about it. I watched some of the 1996 tour today, its almost laughable watching Bjarne Riis and his cohorts climb mountains like they were on the flat.

But, can you not love this guy! http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/06/news/voigt-will-let-the-cobw...

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