Hey wow that hurts knee pain.
Two things: firstly I am a guy and so am in some need of a few "there-there" type expressions of sympathy.
Secondly: the pain is in the front and top of my right knee cap and is MUCH worse when taking off at the lights/climbing etc. however it also seems to get marginally better as I ride but then a few hours later after being off the bike it stars to hurt in an alarming manner.
I'm trying to work out if it is cycling related or just one of those bodily malfunctions that occurs as we approach 40.
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Permalink Reply by David B.o.R. on -
That's the whasisname.
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Permalink Reply by Jeremy Smith on -
I'm glad you got your situation properly diagnosed. It's scary the amount of misinformation being regurgitated in this thread, from people with little more than internet cycling forum medical training.....
When you feel that something isnt right, seek professionals in that field.
It's interesting also that so many people are blaming bike fit on injuries.....when in my experience as a massage therapist, and a cyclist, the body is quite accommodating to different mechanical movements, PROVIDED YOU LOOK AFTER IT.
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Permalink Reply by Martin Turner on -
I agree with you Jeremy but I think most forum users know that health issues should be taken to a professional. That said I find it useful to canvas others opinions and experiences and I think this is probably the main reason people start threads on forums when they have issues.
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Permalink Reply by Andrew M on -
I don't see a lot of misinformation, I see a forum doing exactly what it should be doing -- people with similar pursuits sharing their experiences. You don't get that from a doctor/physio/scans.
I'm not sure what kind of idiot uses an internet forum instead of professional advice, but to write one off in favour of the other I think is dead wrong.
For example, I think what you're saying about bike fit not being important is crucially wrong, and I would urge everyone to ignore it completely. Then again, it's an opinion (even though I think it is extremely sound). But throw it on the pile, just like everyone else here who has an experience to share.
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Permalink Reply by Jeremy Smith on
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Ok, I was trying to keep the post short, and I deleted more than half of what I was going to say, as I felt it wasnt the correct time or place.....but I'll respond to your comment about bike fit.
Yes, it is important....to a degree. Things like having your cleat straight on the bottom of your shoe should definately be checked. Saddle height should not be too low, so you arent recruiting the wrong muscles in your pedal stroke, and putting undue strain on them, or the joints they connect to. Nor should it be too high, so that you have to extend your foot and twist your hips to reach the bottom of your pedal stroke.
I have had a 'bike fit' by one of the bike shops mentioned on the previous pages. When I started riding competetively however, I threw it out the window and adjusted my bike to a far more aerodynamic and powerful position....i'm talking moving the saddle up by about 3cm, and forward 1cm.
I have 3 different race bikes, and 4 different positions. Saddle to bottom bracket height, crank length, saddle to bar drop, and saddle to bar reach all change between bikes.
My saddle to bar drop on my road bike is 5cm different to my track bike. I have been using this position for years, without an issue.The point I am trying to make is that the body can cope with quite large discrepancies in some measurements, provided you do the required preparation and care, such as strengthening, stretching, massage etc.
This nonsense of paying $200 + for a bike shop to move your saddle up 3mm is just rediculous. I have friends who have unfortunately paid this money, and been told that their position is fine......others have been told they need to spend $100's in parts to adjust their bike to a magical position......others who have made their own decision after being too uncomfortable in the bike shops position, adjusted to suit themselves, and enjoyed many years of comfortable cycling.
By all means, if you are not confident in doing adjustments yourself, and dont have anyone to check that your position looks right, go spend your money.
There are unfortunately many people out there, who will sacrifice their own health to save a few dollars. These people are increasingly trying to diagnose themselves using the internet as a guide. The problem with the internet is, there is no guarantee on the quality of the advice.
As you say, throw it on the pile....
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Permalink Reply by Frank on
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I think we are all different and no one has ever been you before!
Sometimes the new parts are needed, sometimes some bodies are more sensitive than others and sometimes it's just nice to get a bloke to move the seat for you cause of the tingles one gets when it's explained to you and suddenly it all just falls into place!
I did a bike fit(amateur) for a mate, made an amazing difference as the shop that fitted him, had his seat so low, no wondering his knees were sore and bend!
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Permalink Reply by Martin Turner on
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I dont know what it is but one of my pet hates is people riding their bikes with their seats set ridiculously low.......Im almost at the point of carrying an allen key in my pocket so I can confront the next one I see...order them off their bike and then proceed to adjust their seat to a more sensible height.
Seat height Nazi...thats me.
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Permalink Reply by David B.o.R. on
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Cheers. You are quite right. I might add, I did ask for it... Literally. Some of the information was invaluable, some of it wasn't. What I wanted from this thread was a "chat in the pub about our war wounds" bay and large this is what I got. The idea was that this was a preliminary discussion before I got to see my gp.
I do have confidence in my bike set up, I have been riding basically the same bike (1 was the same bike in the same size, with the same fit in white that was broken by a blue Holden Astra)for almost 24 months without issue.
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Permalink Reply by Erik Vik on
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You could have an imbalance between your outer and inner quads that is pulling your kneecap diagonally. A physio can tell you quite quickly. Worth a check. Don't wait.
Good luck!
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Permalink Reply by Andrew M on
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that's what my injury is. Working like a nut to correct it. Getting better .... VEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRY slowly.
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