Grenfell Street bus lane - but what about the bikes? Epilogue
So the government is apparently going to make the left hand lane in Grenfell/Currie a dedicated bus lane. From the story in the Advertiser and the animated "fly-over" it looks like there is no space allocated at all for cyclists. So I assume that means they are also going to turn Gawler Place south of Grenfell Street into a "cycles permitted 2-ways" street and maybe make Flinders Street or Pirie into a dedicated bike boulevard? Hey...did I just see some pigs flying past my office window??
Ok lots of people seem to completely missed the original point of my post and the discussion has descended in typical fashion to a bit of name calling and point scoring. Time to close it I think. My point was not to complain about the bus lane - I think it's a good idea and a potential solution to the problems of sharing for different modes of transport i.e. to privilege some forms of transport on some roads to discourage their use by other forms of transport. In that light my question was to ask "if they are going to privilege public transport on this road is there any chance they might privilege cycle transport somewhere else?" I am not convinced that sharing all spaces is the best solution for every situation and as I have commented I would prefer not to share the bus lane with buses and they probably don't want to share with us much either...
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Permalink Reply by Matt Jones on -
They've turned the bike line from Henley Beach rd to Currie St into a nightmare. I sometimes go out of town that way in the morning and the chaos around the disappearing bike lane is crazy.
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Permalink Reply by Doddsy on -
The rules re: bus lanes are the same Australia wide aren't they?
Cyclists, motor cyclist, taxis and buses are allowed in "bus lanes". They are everywhere around Sydney and when in operation they are great.
Cycling groups occasionaly ask for them to be made operational 24 hours a day 7 days a week. We also encourage bike symbols to be painted on these lanes. Its much better than using a regular traffic lane.
However "Bus Only" lanes only allow buses. There aren't many of these around.
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Permalink Reply by Biffidus on -
We can cycle in Bus Lanes but not Bus-only lanes. Which will they be?
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Permalink Reply by Martin Turner on -
$200,000 to speed up the bus journey down Grenfell/Currie street by 3 minutes. Why not make the lane bus AND cycle only??
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Permalink Reply by Matt Brennan on -
3 minutes!! woot! imagine what you could do with that!
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Permalink Reply by Rob Wood on -
Yes but 3 minutes twice a day adds up to 24 hours each year per bus user, that is significant.
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Permalink Reply by Matt Brennan on
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3 Minutes is a government estimate don't forget - real world translation may be about 30 seconds ;)
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Permalink Reply by Martin Turner on
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But surely that's offset by the increased congestion created for non bus traffic.
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Permalink Reply by VeloAvenger on
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Kind of related, why are some turn only lanes, except buses, exept bicycles, except buses and bicycles?
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Permalink Reply by Jeremy Champion on -
Well it means all vehicles must turn except for whatever is mentioned.
I believe bus only lanes are red.
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Permalink Reply by Doddsy on
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When implementing infrastructure they often don't consider bicycles.
Sydney's bus lanes are red and cyclists are permitted in those.
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Permalink Reply by heather on -
It will be red painted bus only lanes.
In my conversations with ACC, they have supported bus only and forgotten about cyclists. I explained that I cycle into town via Morphett Street bridge, then turn left into Currie and Grenfell Streets to reach the CBD. Rundle Mall is no cycling and I avoid Hindley Street (broken glass and distracted drivers). I was told that I could cycle Pirie Street instead (but Gawler Place is not two-way for bicycles). I pointed out that I hate cycling Pirie Street because travel lane narrow and cycle lanes within reach of car doors. These cycle lanes are used too often for temporary car parking and footpaths.
The ACC says it wants to support Active Transport, especially cycling, yet it forgets about cyclists. A better solution would be to make kerbside lane a bus and bicycle lane, as in a section of Pulteney Street.
On tonight's news, Premier Weatherwill was on-site supporting the bus only lanes. Yet the State Government states that it wants to increase cycling. Double it by year ___ (must find the exact quote). Expect cyclists will have to play chicken with vehicles in the one lane!!!!!
Will provide some email addresses for AC members to contact appropriate people, asking for a shared bus-bicycle lane. Examples Pulteney Street, part of Botanic Road. Please provide other examples . . .
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