Getting overtaken on the inside by a fellow cyclist when commuting...
a) is this acceptable?
b) and kind of related, is it legal?
c) why do I expect them to come past me on the outside?
d) why do I feel like cutting the cyclist open with a rusty knife when they knock me arse over tit one day?
discuss...
Tags: arse over tit, commuting, overtaking, road, rules
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Permalink Reply by Don (Who's lost?) Nairn on -
Don’t people have a bell?
Or are they just too complicated for some people to operate?
If he had let you know he was there you probably would have gone into the empty space on the left and it would have been easy and safe for everyone.
I can’t see how operating a bike in stealth mode to startle/frighten other road users is courteous or even sensible.
I must admit my tendency when startled would be swerve to the left in this case it would be a formula for trouble.
As stated elsewhere not all the idiots on the road drive a car.
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Permalink Reply by Patrick O'Kane on -
I had a bell on my bike, one of the few to do so in my experience. I was amazed that ringing it was often ignored, speaking to pedestrians (I ride the Veloway track a lot) certainly got a far better response than the bell. I haven't put it on the new bike yet, not sure whether to or not tbh.
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Permalink Reply by David B.o.R. on -
I was once yelled at by a pedestrian for dinging them and I agree it does seem rather rude (imagine if all car drivers beeped us as they passed). I call out "Excuse me please" in my "hey nice to meet you" voice now. It seems to work.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin White on -
I have a bell on all my bikes I use on the road or paths, it doesnt always work, I got abused for ringing it by some idiot standing in the middle of the path at semaphore on Sunday, then later I got knocked off by some fool who walked straight into me, however considering the amount of people down there it worked about 99% of the time, usually when passing other cyclists I say "on your right one bike" and they hold their line to let me pass.
as a matter of interest by law all bikes must have a warning device, the new rules being looked at will require the cops to issue defect notices for all infringments, that means if you don't have one you can be pulled up, defected pay $250 and loose 2 demerit points, same thing also applies for front and rear reflectors and I think wheel and pedal reflectors
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Permalink Reply by David B.o.R. on
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I just love the idea that a little "ting" will warn some dufus in a hot ute. When they don't see 3 flashing lights and a fluro jacket what are the chances of them hearing a bell? Hilarious!
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Permalink Reply by Kevin White on
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I agree its pretty pointless ringing a bell at some fool in a car but they come in handy on shared paths
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Permalink Reply by Tim on -
A bell is a bit too antiquated. What you need is an Airzound for all those oblivious ipod wearing people. If you are going to pass someone in the bike lane on the left, much better to zoom along the footpath when passing so its hard for them to swerve into you unless they bunny hop over the gutter (just kidding).
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Permalink Reply by Trent on -
do you get more Cat6 points for passing on the left???? just kidding! i am not looking forward to Amy's ride, TDU etc because i am not overly confident in group rides not having done many so am sure there are many more out there will have less of a clue than i do!
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Permalink Reply by MARK FERGUSON (SPARTACUS) on -
Legally if you are both in the same lane (including bike lanes) then it is illegal to pass on the left.
Besides I always spit to left!
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Permalink Reply by Tim on
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Can you provide a link to the legislation. I can only find this...
http://www.austlii.com/au/legis/sa/consol_reg//arr210/s141.html
http://www.aushiker.com/2010/12/petrol-and-pedal-bike-safety-video-...
http://www.sa.gov.au/upload/franchise/Transport,%20travel%20and%20m...
"PASSING (OVERTAKING ) VEHICLES ON THE LEFT
You may overtake both moving and stationary vehicles on the left
except when the vehicle is turning left and indicating a left change
of direction."
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Permalink Reply by rossmg on -
Hmm, I think what he means is a bike should not overtake another bike when both in the same lane.
However, without double checking, a bicycle is a vehicle as much as a motor driven one is then a bicycle can over take another on the left. "You may overtake both moving and stationary vehicles on the left".
Do not remember any reference to what kind of lane.
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Permalink Reply by Tim on
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The reason I ask, is because as I understand it the law does not make illegal for cyclists to pass any other vehicle on the left, whether stationary or in motion, unless the driver of the other vehicle is signaling his intention to turn left. Obviously there are other laws with regards to safe overtaking which may come to bear, but I am unaware of any specific law which states that a cyclist passing in the same lane on the left is illegal as the OP suggested. Whether or not it is sensible is a different matter.
Why bother trying to clarify? This thread is a case in point, the cyclist did not break the law, but is threatened with charges and told untruths by those who are meant to enforce it. http://www.sydneycyclist.com/forum/topics/i-got-doored.
Just like you have no legal compulsion to take a breath test when cycling, unless you know the law then you don't know your rights.
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