I was really excited to receive notification the other day, for the 2012 Amy Gillett Gran Fondo registrations had opened. However, my excitement quickly turned to dismay, and then slight resentment at the event organisers when I saw that the price had increased by approximately 15% on the 2011 price. Furthermore, I realised the price of most everything associated with the event also increased in price!
So, I reviewed what I receive for a $190 ride in September, beside riding along the Great Ocean Road.
• A fully timed, mass participation competitive event based on finishing time - true 'Gran Fondo' style
• 120km of fully closed roads on the iconic Great Ocean Road
• Open to all rider levels with staggered starting times - safety first
• Age group and team prize money and awards
• Qualify for the 2013 UCI World Cycling Tour World Championships (UWCT Final)
• Limited field of participants for 2012
For my hard earned cash, that's all I get. Food, accommodation, travel and insurance is all extra. There is no t-shirt, jersey, discounted food or local accommodation wrapped up in the registration. Just the above.
To break it down into a monetary perspective, I decided to compare registration costs associated with some international Gran Fondo events. Here is what I discovered:
To ride Tour of Flanders - €35 (AUD$45)
To ride Lake Tapoe NZ - $99 (AUD$78)
UCI approved event also.
To ride Etape du Tour, France - €95 + €5 ins (AUD$128)
Two dates & two routes to choose from! Completely closed course also.
Ride organisers can surely do so much better, and make it even more attractive for people to jump onto events. We seem to get completely soaked and ripped off in this beautiful country!! Why?
Footnote: I'm reserving my decision to register. Still weighing up the cost of it all.
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Consider the Public Liability Insurance premiums for the organisers, the need to offer prize money which is usually sourced in part by entry fees, and in this case, from a LIMITED number of participants (which I would guess is limited due to safety). Mass-participation cycling events are hideously expensive to run, and if it's an Amy Gillet foundation event, then I'd hazard a guess that part of your entry fee would go towards supporting the foundation.
It is expensive! So is cycling in general.
Agreed these events would cost some to organise, but that is a bit rich.
If you aren't happy - I would let them know and not attend.
The only problem is there is always someone else with more money than sense to fill the void ;)
Usually I just vote with my feet. I understand that part of the entry fee is to support a good charity, that's fine, but the other parts unless there is a break down of what each section is for, can be a little hard to swallow. Totally understand where you are coming from in this regard. $190 is a lot to pay to ride the same stretch of road you can do for free on any other day under other vehicular duress. But it obviously costs money to set up detours for cars, ambulance on the scene, advertising etc.
But as Belinda mentioned, PL insurance is jumping to stupid levels due to people looking for an excuse to sue. No doubt the local council/govco will be looking for a handout as well. Most of the people involved are volunteers so that counts them out of the funding. It all costs money to make a statement as loud as this. The AG foundation is a large one and is usually a good ride that is well organized and supported to go on.
But if you are not happy, just don't go. Do a different ride instead.
There are lots of organized rides that are not run by paid people.
The Adelaide Touring Cyclists have a ride to Birdsville organized over 3 weeks.
the cycling for pleasure group have weekend at Mannum coming up soon.
Gawler Wheelers ride most Saturday mornings
If you look in the events page there are all sorts of activities you can participate in and all the organizes would like is a smile and a thank you afterwards (but this is probably not enforceable)
this would leave you money to give to whatever charity takes your fancy including "coffee for sweaty Lycra lads" but you probably wont get a tax deduction for this one.
From a business point of view is not the purpose to raise money for the charity?
If the event is very popular isn't it sensible to raise the price to make more money for the charity?
If they can get 4000 people at $150
or 4000 people at $160 which will raise more money for the charity?
Are cyclists seen as a group that are generous with deep pockets?
that is a different question.
Is it ethical for charities to do there best to get as much money as possible from people?
Again this is an other question but more money will allow them to do more good work.
Can you afford it?
Perhaps you should ask your wife and kids
well said Rob.
+1 , 8~)
Yes, agree is expensive. To be fair Amy Gillett Foundation use these rides as fund raisers, and Don already beat me to most of the ponits I would make. However, ....
Suppose a charity, is organising a ride as a fund raiser, funds to promote cyclist safety. Suppose by putting up its prices 33% - and cutting down services to riders - it aims to raise, $20,000 more this year.
Suppose this year, many riders avoid the ride, because they feel it's become a rip off. Or can't afford it. But the charity still makes the extra money
Is the charity acting ethically? Fairly? With integrity? I'd say posslby not, but I'd be in a minority.
The charity's aims are ethical, but its means to achieve them, seem a bit unethical . I'd insist that both the aims and the means be ethical. Not acceptable to me, to simply insist the aims be ethical - then use any means you can to achieve those...
Charities have, as part of their reason for being, part of their aim, a task to make society fairer . We expect them to demonstrate that fairness, act fairly, in all they do. Is difficult for them sure. But they are at odds with their own aims - if this year, they give poorer value for money, or the high entry fee excludes people . People generally think of such things as unfair. Best if the hypothetical charity doesnt do them - even if it makes a bit less cash than it otherwise could.
The Amy Gillett Foundation do do a good job, I hope they'll continue to run rides that offer good value for money, and at the same time promote cycling safety. .Difficult balance, but they seemed to be doing OK so far....
I think the cost of a lot of these rides is starting to get abit high but I reckon this particular ride is not bad value as you get a closed road, not an easy thing to do. paying over a $100 to ride on open public roads is starting to lose some of it's appeal to me though. The charities need to find a WOW factor to their rides I think or they will begin to lose popularity, The VeloAdelaide ride didn't grab my attention but at least it had the chance to ride through the Heysen Tunnels, a closed GOR is appealing.
Did anyone look into the Cancer Council Lands End to John O'Groats ride that was in the press recently, now that was expensive. As much as that ride is on my bucket list I couldn't justify the cosst involved.
Mate I wouldn't give One Red Cent to anything that the Cancer Council is involved in. Less than 18% of the money raised by that Organisation goes towards Cancer Research or associated activities. Whereas the money paid to "Ride Like Crazy', for example has virtually ALL monies raised, including Registration going to Cancer related Charities. Having had a considerable input into fund raising and bike riding fund raisers I know that there are a lot of people out there who work for some of these Organisations that are sitting on big fat salaries, Pizzes me right off !
Just my opinion, of course.
Ooops.My apologies to the CC it was the Flinders Medical Centre Foundation
I should have realised Patrick. Have helped raise over $30K for FMCF. They are one of the 'Good Guys' Completely transparent, you can nominate were your funds can be used and have nothing to do with CCSA (unless they have to).