Cycling, Speed
Will add extracts from
Towards Zero Together – South Australia's Road Safety Strategy 2020
http://www.dpti.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/73335/South_A...
http://www.sa.gov.au/towardszerotogether
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Permalink Reply by Richard Stevens on -
that's how the red light cameras started in Adelaide too until they did the maths and worked out how much revenue could be made. If they were serious about safety then they should install a shite load more camera boxes and do the same thing again.
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Permalink Reply by heather on -
Legislate for all new vehicles to be fitted with Intelligent Speed Adaptation that uses GPS to recognise the speed zone and stop vehicles from exceeding the speed limit. Then some motorists could not complain about revenue raising, when the real purpose is to to impose some safety.
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Permalink Reply by rossmg on -
And just when you need a squirt of power to get out of a nasty situation ... or like the car that won't let you prang - that might be your best line of defense.
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Permalink Reply by heather on
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There are 3 types of Intelligent Speed Adaptation. Earlier in this discussion I stated preference for the type with an override, so able to exceed speed limit when best option.
rossmg, know what you mean about some vehicle controls. Mandatory in new vehicles to have Electronic Stability Program. Recall occasion on the open highway when I intentionally put an old car into a sideways skid to avoid crashing. ESB probably vetoes handbrake turns -- better to be hit from behind than head on? Unfortunately my current car does not have a handbrake lever immediately to my left. Keep in mind that the average motorist does not know how to driver and needs all these safety extras.
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Permalink Reply by Michael G on -
So you guys don't agree with cyclists wearing helmet cams and using the footage to report incidents ?
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Permalink Reply by Michael G on
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Sorry Simon the red light cameras don't enforce the law the police do with the footage taken by them. Strangely the same thing that could be done by CCTV.
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Permalink Reply by Torsten Bunge on -
I see what you meant the other night Heather, way to stir up a hornets nest! For what it's worth I'm with you on this one. The other issue I see is the number of cars on our roads is increasing & this is not sustainable in the the long term, we need to reduce our dependancy on cars before our infrastructure can no longer cope.
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Permalink Reply by Brian Jenkins (BJ) on -
Way to go Heather! A nicely balanced debate. Lots of research data versus I want to do this. Is that a fair statement?
On speed limits, I'm in favour of the main arterials staying as they are, suburban streets becoming 30kmh. The main reason for this is to see whether children would return to riding suburban streets to school, to sport, to where-ever (as I did in Adelaide) - as their parents would let them (currently parents don't let them, as they know how fast they are continually driving on the streets). I wouldn't be surprised if it failed, as too many other competing factors.
The lifestyle of our cities is a major hurdle. So many people do not live near their work - and won't consider moving there as they are not likely to be working there in 5 years time. So many people work fractured hours - and so many live fractured lives because of it. In the short term, we're heading for more people and more cars - wave a magic wand to make more roads in our inner suburbs? China and India are heading for LOTS more cars. Get that horse and cart while you can.
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Permalink Reply by heather on
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Brian, thanks.
How would SOME children cycle to school on only quiet residential roads? Black Friars Priory on arterial Prospect Road. Schools on Grand Junction Road and Hampstead Road might have been replaced by super schools. Several schools in the City where streets are very busy.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Palfrey on -
If all levels of government had the will, safe approach routes to all schools would be a feasible prospect, but it 'won't happen when there are so many that are so opposed to their journey increasing by 5 mins or the anti enforcement/dobber/CCTV brigade continue to have the right to vote.
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Permalink Reply by Michael G on
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Scott, you seem to have changed your opinion about CCTV since your post on the 22 March in relation to Paul Jorgensen capturing his car dooring incident on his helmet cam.
"If Paul was punched in the face on a night out and recieved 8 stitches, caught on video it would be an assault charge for sure. Whats the difference?? This really makes me angry."
Are you now suggesting Paul shouldn't have been wearing a cam or that CCTV shouldn't be used to capture assaults in the city at night ?
In my opinion it is a case of 'the lesser of two evils'. People assaulting others, endangering others lives with dangerous driving are encroaching on our civil liberties. If we can catch more of them then all the better.
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