hello!
does anyone know the regulated width of a bicycle lane on the road?
also, I am currently analysing Gouger Street for a uni assignment, does anyone know why there is no bike lane on Gouger Street between King William Street and Morphett street?
cheers,
elyse :)
Tags: lanes
Permalink Reply by Chris Russell on April 23, 2012 at 23:36
Permalink Reply by heather on April 23, 2012 at 23:59 Chris, local councils provide input to DPTI re arterial roads in their locale, and some councils lobby strongly. Prospect Council plans for Prospect Road included in some places bicycle lanes removed; not enough space for a bus to safely overtake cyclist; not enough space for other vehicles to safely overtake cyclist; an arterial road made into a 'shared space'; even not enough space for a bus to pass vehicles legally parked during non peak times. This did not follow Austroads or the State Government Cycling Strategy for SA. However, it seemed that these plans would be accepted by some Ministers and the State Government.The reason I started Prospect BUG to lobby for cyclist safety, did much research and attended many council meetings. Took up 32 months of my life. Mar-2012 some things outstanding, like replacing bikedirect signs that where removed, and pedestrian safety issues.
Permalink Reply by Chris Russell on April 24, 2012 at 20:05 Granted Heather but you have reinforced the distinction between lobbying and deciding. I was responding to David's somewhat cynical comment by point out that for most bike lanes Councils are not the decision makers.
Permalink Reply by heather on April 24, 2012 at 20:36 Chris, I am not sure about that. I know that in the 1990s, Prospect Council stopped the installation of bicycle lanes on Prospect Road. A later compromise when Transport again wanted bicycle lanes on its arterial road, was concrete protuberances of half-width parking bays that during peak hours became a clearway and cycling area. Motorists parked in the clearway were not ticketed. Then a third time it seemed that Prospect Council would again muck up cycling along Prospect Road. Council contracted and paid for the design which was presented to Transport for approval. Prospect Council organised the work, and when I reported many serious cycling hazards (breached Austroads), I was told to contact council. Even though an arterial road that is supposedly under the control of State rather than Local Government. From my experience a local council can be the decision maker with Transport approving the council's design.
Permalink Reply by David Bowler on April 24, 2012 at 23:49 Please excuse my cynicism Chris - a byproduct of too many hours riding on Adelaide roads. Although I mentioned councils in my original post, it could equally apply to other levels of government for the road they support.
Permalink Reply by Chris Russell on April 26, 2012 at 22:38 You catch more flies with honey than vinegar - is the apt saying I think!
An interesting road to look at would be Hackney Rd...just where the bridge goes over the Torrens. The bike lane there is ridiculous...hardly a bike lane at all.
Permalink Reply by Don (Who's lost?) Nairn on April 24, 2012 at 3:47 As others have said (sorry I cant give the reference)
A lot of bike lanes are only clearway's with a white line down the side.
or alternatively they are something to encourage cyclists to ride in the dooring zone.
Permalink Reply by Sophia MacRae on April 24, 2012 at 12:17 That might have been me (along with others...) a few days ago on Chris' thread about the jogger in the bike lane...
Permalink Reply by heather on April 24, 2012 at 9:04 Ella, I noted that on Saturday but not carrying a tape measure.
Don, another definition of bicycle lane is alternate car parking. Drivers do not seem to want cyclists on the roads. Then pedestrians do not seem to want cyclists in bicycle lanes, shared paths and bicycle paths. The latter made sense when I saw this definition on AC: pedestrians are motorists who have found a car park.
Permalink Reply by Don (Who's lost?) Nairn on April 24, 2012 at 11:10 or are pedestrians just cyclists that have had a breakdown?
I have seen more than one pedestrian pushing a bike with a flat tire.
Another thing that can reduce bike lane width is bushes that encroach on the road
Permalink Reply by heather on April 24, 2012 at 17:50 Don, report encroaching foliage to the local council, even when the bicycle lane is on an arterial road.
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