Well the weather is starting to cool down and I think it is time for a new pair of longs.

I have gotten used to wearing bib nix and find my old longs not as comfortable as they once were so was looking into bib longs.

Can anyone recommend any bib longs or know of a good brand?

I was thinking of something without a chamois to wear over my normal bib nix but am open to suggestions as to why that might not be a good idea.

Cheers

Alex

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Why not use leg warmers with existing bib shorts? I rode winter last year without a dedicated pair of bib longs and was fine even at 0 degree dawn temperatures as long as the upper body was layered and protected. Works out cheaper too.

Previous year I use a pair of DHB bib longs from wiggle.co.uk which were fine. If your current shorts are comfortable with a good chamois then try leg warmers. In general for the same price for longs, the chamois tends to be inferior and you need to spend more for the equivalent quality chamois.

I recently brought a pair of 2xu elite compression tights with the chamois. I wear them over my bibs, I've been on some lengthy rides now and have had no problems, even with two layers the sweat still is drawn away from the body so no issues with chaffing. they also seemed to adapt to the weather so I was never to hot or to cold, or that could just be me.

I got them off the 2xu website, half the price in the clearance section and their sizing chart was spot on. I definitely will be investing in another pair in the near future.

I use knee warmers

I have a couple of pairs of knee warmers but have found them either too tight at the top around the thighs or too loose so they don't stay in place.

To be honest I am a bit of a wuss when it comes to the cold (living in the hills doesn't help) and like the idea of full length longs.

Scott, how do you find wearing layers of chamois on longer rides?  Any dramas?

Cheers

Alex

Hairy legs does it for me!

And here I thought your were a leg shaver convert Mark....LOL

No I did it once and never again!

I have a pair of Skins bib longs with chamois I use on cooler weather. Excellent compression and the chamois is pretty good too. Never been too hot in them. They breathe well. Paid $150 for them on www.cyclingsports.com.au which was half price at the time. Feel good on and look alright too.

The other option as Mark S mentioned is to get unpadded DHB longs for about $50-60 to wear over you regular bib.

I was never a fan of knee warmers. Sure they look like they are handy, but when on, I never liked the way my thigh bulged under my knicks with the upper leg grippers. It could be that I bought cheap knee warmers or perhaps got the wrong size.

I think Im gonna invest in some 3/4 bib knickers as I hear they are a good in between style long and still provide warmth on your knees without making you too hot.

you can probably get some discounted ones from that 'W' store.  They still may be running out winter stock.

Be warned the winter ones....are indeed winter ones and probably far warmer than anything sold here!  If you are in the hills on a 0 degree morning they would be ideal but probably too warm once you start getting over 12-14 degrees.

Warmers are handy for this time of year - for cold starts and the ability to delayer once the sun rises.  I think long bibs are more comfortable for winter real.

I got some Campy ones last year - great chamois, good material, just had to go a size up for a good fit and they are toasty...but not so you cook.

I also have some long skins.  Probably more versatile here as they are compression material and not as warm.  Made well and decent chamois - just keep an eye out for specials on the skins site.

I have a new pair of Castelli Sorpasso from PBK winter clearance, haven't tried them out yet, but waiting for the cold nights to kick in.

I have a set of PACC bib *fleecy* longs. (made by champion system), I think trappy has a pair of 3/4s too.

Toasty, warm and comfortable.  They have a chamois so no wearing shorts underneath. The zips on the ankle have long-lasting reflective beading sewn-in which is a nice touch and reflective logos on the front of the thigh also.

@gemma - are there any size M in 3/4's available?

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